[Atompunk] Atompunk Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2
viola at planetart.nl
Sat Dec 6 14:09:43 CET 2008
oops, I will translate that message:
My collegue replied on this message:
He deeply complimented you on your ideas and saw possibilities to base an
assignment for artschools on this article.
And he asked me how a mailinglist works ;)
----- Original Message -----
From: "PLANETART" <planetart at planet.nl>
To: <atompunk at antenna.nl>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Atompunk] Atompunk Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2
> jeetje wat een input, heeft een punt over punk!
> wel goeeie ideeen zeg om uit te werken ook, zo'n stuk zou je mee kunnen
> geven aan een HVA of beter Rietveld klas of zo om mee aan de slag te
> gaan, hebben we het vanavond graag f over...
> hoe reageer je nu naar zo'n man toe, visa reply gaat dat naar hem of
> iedereen , jij bent moderator, kun je mij uitleggen hoe dat gaat?
> Adam Rothstein schreef:
>> A few hastily drawn up thoughts quickly evolved into a personal manifesto
>> of sorts... Sorry for monopolizing bandwidth, but I guess I just can't
>> shake all that philosophy I crammed into my brain at one time. Would
>> love to hear any thoughts, disputations, angry slurs and insinuations.
>> thoughts about "____-punk"...
>> I've noticed that many styles and sub-cultures that either adopt, or are
>> adopted into the surname, "___-Punk", might be better served by the word
>> "Chic". Naturally, most sub-cultures have a certain aesthetic to them: a
>> style of dress, a slang, defining characteristics or popular models. But
>> being a sub-culture doesn't necessarily deserve the punk-attribute, at
>> least in my opinion.
>> Punk, as its own sub-culture (and the first to embrace the term) was
>> originally derided as being 'music for animals, street-thugs, maladjusted
>> malcontents, and others whom society would rather just went away.' (my
>> own definition). And for the most part, they were. Of course, now
>> anyone can like punk-rock music, and punk clothing, hairstyles, art, etc.
>> Now there is a punk-chic; but, at first it was 'punk' because it was low,
>> because it was unfavorable, and because it turned much of its animosity
>> towards those with whom it contrasted. It was a loud-screaming,
>> hard-drinking, chord-nashing kick in the crotch to the rest of music, and
>> was glad to be so. Certainly it was not the first counter-culture, but I
>> think it's fair to call it the archetype of the modern counter-culture.
>> Now, my own interests may bias me and easily reveal an even bigger
>> orientation towards counter-cultures in general, but in looking at
>> incarnations of ____-punk, I can see various angles on both the chic,
>> purely cultural variety, and the punk, counter-cultural type.
>> Cyber-punk, while having a gritty, exposed-wire,
>> hyperbureaucratic-pollution look, also has cyborg and hacking as major
>> themes--which are certainly hands-on counter-culture. Steam-punk, as
>> well, may be shrouded in brass trim, colored glass, and darkwoods (not to
>> mention having a fondness for the hiss of boilers and dressy vests), but
>> I think it also represents an alternate-view of history--a rejection of
>> internal combustion, certain aspects of the scientific method, and modern
>> economics--exploring some of science's so-called "dead ends" to see if
>> they really are dead (or perhaps to see if they can be zombified to
>> will-lessly serve their new masters), in leiu of blinding heading down
>> the superhighway of "progress". Because they have become cultures, and
>> not just themes for a single story-line, these ____-punks have developed
>> cultural 'lives of their own', the creativity of their proponents
>> blossoming forth with fashions, musics, technical vocabularies, and
>> projects that willingly stray from the ideological line. However, this
>> doesn't mask what I believe is the important fact: the chic is truly
>> developed, and wonderfully so, when there is a radical departure from a
>> stated ideal of contemporary culture. This ___-punk can blast off, split
>> the atom, and take flight; it can release a cataclysmic/cathartic amount
>> of creative energy, which, of course, may be quickly turned back around
>> through the ___-punk/industrial complex to feed the consumer-oriented
>> masses and/or the state ideology (do you see where I'm going with this?)
>> Atomic Dreams...
>> The post-war period was a major re-alligning, re-imagination of the world
>> throughout almost all boundaries and systems. Similar, in this way to
>> the Industrial Revolution (steam-punk) and the Digital Revolution
>> (cyber-punk). I think that the major elements of the atomic era's onset
>> belie a deeper change occuring in the world; a push to put modernism not
>> just in the imperial, parlimentary, and industrial centers and houses,
>> but into every country and every home. It was the rise of not only
>> mass-production, but mass-marketing; the beginning of not simply weapons
>> of destruction but of mass-destruction; the birth of ideology and dreams
>> not only for individuals or of vanguards, but the State Ideology, and the
>> National Dream.
>> But hand in hand with the push to bring the advances of culture to the
>> masses came mass-terror. 1945 may have seen the defeat of fascism, but
>> it was also about the time that micro-fascism ended its adolescence,
>> emancipated itself from the household of its mother (nation) and its
>> father (the leader) and sought to make a name for itself. Do you
>> neighbors have a better auto than you? Are your sheets white enough? Do
>> we have more/faster planes than them? Who will conquer space? Who will
>> conquer the moon? Are /you/ with us? Are /your/
>> neighbors/parents/teachers/newspapers/film directors/car manufacturers
>> with us? The age of the pressing, polemical, personal, rhetorical
>> question was at hand, because the horrible answer was now so near in the
>> The "we" ended with WWII, now it was time for "I", or more so, "you".
>> What will /you/ do to halt the advance of the answer to the question?
>> What will you invent? What will you work on? What will you buy? What
>> complex/corporation will you join, and further the goals of? What
>> organizations have you been, are you currently, and will you be a member
>> of in the near future? What will happen next, and what will you do when
>> it does? The world split down the middle, and each atom was alligned
>> within one of its hemispheres. Within these spheres all the other
>> molocules could be now broken down, analyzed, and re-synthesized. Each
>> individual atom was split off, and recombined into nuclear families of
>> the precise chemical composition that would create the necessary
>> reaction. And where was the reaction heading? Perhaps eventually to
>> sustainable power sources of the future, but first: chain reaction,
>> meltdown, and thermonuclear explosion. Perhaps /you /shouldn't drive so
>> fast, but then again, /we /have to get there before /they /do. What
>> element do /you /want to be?
>> Today's Atom-punk of the future...
>> So what is atom-punk then? Is it merely a facination with the lifestyle
>> of the times: a retro-chic with a new monicker? I think it should be
>> more than that. Like any epoch, our current times have heavy echoes of
>> the past. How are we to react? How do we punk the modern times?
>> The Atomic Age is first and foremost, in my opinion, remembered as a time
>> of extremes. No gentle Aristotelians ever quietly sipped their watery
>> drinks in the corners of the bunkers of NORAD, in Madison Avenue board
>> rooms, or while measuring their lawn lengths, or trading on the black
>> market, pausing from quietly listening to dispense a few words of sage
>> mediating advice. After that, it was the rise of the individual en
>> masse: the boy scout, the modern worker, the scientist, the corporate
>> business-man, and the middle-class nuclear family. It was also the
>> beginning of the mass to the individual: consumer culture, advertising,
>> personal loyalty, and citizenship. And lastly but not least: it was the
>> age of the awesome apocalypse. Eschatology was nothing new, but these
>> were end-times without redemption, where destruction was mutually assured
>> to prevent the Others from destroying our heaven on earth, as they surely
>> The way that I take this the way I take many horrible features of the
>> present-day world: with a slug of booze and a shot of irony. Ironic
>> appropriation of the atomic archetypes seems necessary, if not totally
>> going-without-saying. What else is a rational human being supposed to do
>> when confronted with the cute little "Duck and Cover" turtle? What can we
>> do except laugh hysterically?
>> But I think we can do more than that. Irony is a cheap thrill these
>> days, in a world with so much horror. There is something to the midset
>> of the Atomic Age that is still useful, if not wonderful, I think.
>> Perhaps its a general attitude of excitement for the future, a love for
>> new, radically different design. Perhaps it was the directness of that
>> question to the "you", that personal element that was so quickly lost in
>> the annonymity of mass-communication. Or perhaps it was the combination
>> of fear and anticipation that still soaked through the laughter when even
>> today, we unconsciously mime the "duck and cover" spasticity while
>> ironically watching Billy and Susie diving to that linoleum floor. The
>> world can still end at any minute. Haven't we all wanted to build a bomb
>> shelter in our backyard, if not for the awesomely tacky lamps and
>> ready-to-eat meals, than just for the solice and womb-like, concrete
>> comfort? Shall we finally stop worrying and love the atomization of our
>> lives? Maybe by mimicking a culture we have since seen fall away, we
>> can help the current world's problems fall away to other things, new
>> things with new problems, if not a perfect future.
>> And not just by mimicking, either. By innovating! Ever-forward, of
>> course! What is the new atom, waiting to be cracked? Is it the byte?
>> The stem cell? The hydrogen ion? What web apps are my neighbors using?
>> What design of auto will best express the fact that we are living in a
>> new age? How do we prevent /them/ from destroying our world? Who do
>> /you/ know who is stepping on the feet of progress? How can get the kids
>> to listen to good music, and not this awful rock 'n roll? What slogans
>> can best express to the masses that WE are NOW living IN THE FUTURE! What
>> are /you/ going to do to help? Let's proliferate, industrialize and punk
>> those Reds/Capitalists before they punk us!
>> Some atom-punk ideas:
>> Battery-powered everything (and better batteries)
>> Developing and posting escape routes/plans
>> New concept models of common-place, time-worn devices
>> Logos for things that don't yet exist
>> Drills and training for mundane, possibly cataclysmic eventualities (i.e.
>> web searches, car-breakdowns, lost items)
>> Investigative questions for un-suspecting suspects
>> Slogans. Lot's of slogans.
>> The "new billboard". I'm not sure what it is yet; but it is NOT the web
>> banner. I'm thinking more along the lines of quasi-illegally affixed
>> The new, post-gender nuclear family
>> Sunday Dinners
>> Standards that thwart old standards (i.e. mass-produced, identical
>> "Welcome" signs that replace picket fences, manners that violate old
>> Why isn't life more like a rocket?
>> Gadgets that require simpler (more home-built, less environmentally
>> impacting) circuits rather that integrated
>> Concrete: good for the family, good for the nation, good for you
>> Personal Foreign Policy
>> Bureaucracy with a purpose: living better through forms:
>> Family TV Hour: once a day, for one hour only, only programs not aired in
>> the past fifteen years
>> Light-switches: we still have the same freakin' light switches?
>> The Diner is the Luxury Restaurant of our Age
>> What does your suit say about You?
>> NotBomb-Shelters (i.e. Commercial Shelters, Car Shelters,
>> Computer-Virus/Malware Shelters)
>> The ____ Gap: we must be falling behind in something. What is it, and
>> how can we quickly produce to fill this gap?
>> Home Economics
>> Post-Union Workers (not Postal Union Workers) but speaking of that
>> The US Mails
>> One-Time Offers
>> ...and more after this!
>> Duck and Cover,
>> Adam (not-Atom) Rothstein
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